soldier/demo update day 2

[Brains]

http://www.teamfortress.com/propaganda/submit.php

for those awesome photoshoppers out there....some prizes could come your way!

[Juicedturtle]

hmm, just need to get some tf2 font.

[Brains]

you already have it. comes with tf2.

->\Steam\steamapps\<steamusername\team fortress 2\tf\resource
in that folder.

[Ramanag]

Ahhhh, TF2's site is blocked at work. What does it say????? Photoshop, posters, I've gathered as much from this and the shoutbox. If someone were to summarize the updates up through MOnday I would be quite grateful.

[klossi]

Ahhhh, TF2's site is blocked at work. What does it say????? Photoshop, posters, I've gathered as much from this and the shoutbox. If someone were to summarize the updates up through MOnday I would be quite grateful.

We?re just over 24 hours into the war, and let us tell you, we are surprised and delighted by the number of Soldiers and Demomen brutally slaughtered so far?the life mercilessly choked from their bodies by your bare hands, much like the air mercilessly squeezed from the inflatable mattress you flattened out after your relatives stayed over for the holidays.

You?d think this would sate our bloodlust. Our on-site developmental psychologist certainly did when he suggested this event. But all we can think of when we look at those big beautiful numbers (2,985,323) is MORE.

Luckily, you can help. Contribute to the war effort by designing a propaganda poster focused on the brave/cold-hearted Soldier/Demomen and his heroic/cowardly fight against the square-jawed/craven Soldier/Demoman?thus inspiring new casualties and feeding our all-consuming thirst for war.

DID WE MENTION PRIZES?

We should have! Because that is what you?ll get if you win.

FIRST PRIZE is a one-of-a-kind item?the most prestigious and unique item ever to grace the game of Team Fortress. Not only will it be awarded to you and you only, we will name it after you and even ENGRAVE YOUR NAME on it, so even if someone manages to steal it, you?re still the boss! (Don?t forget to submit the following as part of your entry: "If I win, my prize shall be irrevocably be named YOUR NAME'S COOL ITEM, and I am fine with that.?)

SECOND AND THIRD PRIZES won?t be nearly as cool as the first prize, but will ALSO be one-of-a-kind items (just not as good). That?s how prizes work. Look it up sometime.

As if that weren?t enough, 25 RUNNERS-UP will get the MANN CO PRIZE PACKAGE, which isn?t one-of-a-kind but is nonetheless free. That?s 25 more free things than we got today. Food for thought.

But wait! Against all the rules of contest creation, there is STILL MORE! Because even if you don?t win ANY of the prizes listed above, Gabe Newell might take a liking to your poster and AWARD SOME POINTS to the side of your choice in the Soldier/Demo War. Is this fair? No! Does Gabe care? Not even slightly!

Winners will be announced Wednesday and gallery of entries shown then. Get creative and GOOD LUCK!

[Devant]

Wish I was creative / had photoshop experience

[Ramanag]

Klossi, you are quickly working your way up my list of favorite Germans. You just passed Shepard. In all seriousness, though, despite having no chance at this myself, I have some friends familiar with TF2 who could potentially knowck this out of the park. Time to delegate.

[klossi]

Klossi, you are quickly working your way up my list of favorite Germans. You just passed Shepard. In all seriousness, though, despite having no chance at this myself, I have some friends familiar with TF2 who could potentially knowck this out of the park. Time to delegate.


behold! it's getting better. i just found this secret page in the saxton hale comic:


http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/poopyjoe.htm


looks like soldier will get a pickaxe and demo a claymore-like sword. that's my wild guess at least

[Brains]

and by the way, CRAFTING IS COMING.
finally. http://www.teamfortress.com/crafting/

[Bonemasher]

Wait a sec, that poopy joe stuff says mann co, and the 25 runners up get a mann co prize package, so maybe that stuff is what you get.

Anyways I was too lazy to install photoshop, but I made a poster in paint that I dont think is too bad. I'm hoping the humor overpowers the look. It makes the demo appear to be a drunk.

EDIT: Anyone else notice the shovel in the crafting screeny? I can't tell whats diferent about it. It could just be a community shovel.

[Scruga]

seems like your ordinary shovel to me

[Snix]

Hmmm pyro falls for the winner!!

[Bonemasher]

OMG, The eyelander and the chargin targe. I will have to use the demo now. They sound so awesome. Wonder that the pipebomb gets replaced with though. Either way I think the demo just got alot more interesting.

[Juicedturtle]

pretty cool. But lame

[klossi]

the 7th weapon for demo is a sword aswell. just bigger and better.

http://www.webwawa.com/july08/dowant.jpg

[Brains]

a sword...ehhhh
a shieldd....ehhhh
I want EXPLOSIONS FOR MY DEMO! demo = DEMOLISH in my book....no hack and slash and charge....boooooo.....stupid barbarian....give me a hammerdin ANYDAY

[Brains]

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/demo/05.htm
also what is sco____ res____ going to stand for? 3rd weapon unlock maybe?
dammit valve and their awesomeness...teasing us all the time with goodies...

maybe it's scottish reserves...new alcoholic beverage to give him a buff :D

[Kaplan]

I'm looking forward to the Eyelander decapitation animation tf2 style!

The chargin' targe I'm not sure about. My first impression was what was Valve thinking. My second thought was I hope to God that they don't screw up the Soldier unlocks.

I don't mind completely different weapons. I'm sure people will use it, to get an achievement, test it out, but I don't see people giving up their sticky launchers for the shield.

I will wait until we get a chance to play with the new unlocks before making up my mind.

I was hoping that they would give the Demoman something similar to what was shown in the TF2 trailer (start around 2:15)

YouTube- Team Fortress 2 Trailer 2

[Snix]

oh sweet, yeah that would be cool

[Brains]

I could so go for the stickynade explodes and leaves behind dynamite that also explodes :D
that's how I like my demo, full of explosive power. not melee junk

[Kaplan]

that's how I like my demo, full of explosive power. not melee junk

Exactly. It looks to me that Valve is trying to address the issue of close quarter combat which is a weakness of the demo man, but I think they're emphasizing it too much. I was hoping for some dynamite at least for the demo. Hopefully, the third unlock will address that he's a demo man (explosive unlock of some sort), but with the comic displaying the letters sco___ res___ i'm not too hopeful. Prove me wrong, Valve!

[Scruga]

let's hope for a nice 7th weapon and the demo winning the war then ;D

[Homfry]

Yeah the sword seems cool and all but when equip the targe you take away his stickies you are sort of making him pyroish without fire.

Now he seems to be even more in trouble :) you have melee but only pipes. kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nice try but I'm not sure if I like the update.

It would be cool to just run around with the sword if it didn't take off max health :(

[Tiger]

http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_1

[Homfry]

Maybe the other thing is something silly called scout resistance :)

[Brains]

and that stupid targe charge nonsense is just gonna let you charge in a straight line and if you don't hit a target, probably get all stunned and whatnot.....I can just see it now, a team full of chargers rushing a CP from like a mile away so they ubermassive crit with the sword when they reach an enemy...i'll just lay down some stickies with the good ol stickylauncher and wait for those dumb chargers to run on top of my trap.....AND BOOOOOM.
the final weapon unlock HAS to be an explosive weapon to make up for the lack in BOOM the demo has now with these alternate weapons.

i understand valve and they're whole making different weapons (huntsman, jarate, etc). they try to make the class do things it's not originally intended for. that's fine, but I for one won't be playing the new demo. sticking with my medic/sniper

[Brains]

reminds me of Diablo2

demo is now a Paladin w/ Charge, Smite, swords, fire resistance, speed boost, health leech, etc etc. should make a secret cow level map, I've got Mann co's leg, we can make a TP with the new crafting system (horadric cube) coming out. intel cases have the scrolls of TP in them. technically already doing MF runs with the whole random drop system in place for months now....haha

[Devant]

can you use the targe with the bottle and pipe launcher? keep your hp up and get the resistances. I think it could come in handy for breaking tricky sentries without an uber.

[Brains]

targe is a passive item, like the razorback. the targe replaces the sticky launcher spot. so you can have the pipe launcher, melee weapon (sword/bottle) and targe. so you can charge with any weapon out when you have the targe on (using altFire)

[Devant]

that sounds interesting to me. Makes you really good at aiming pipes. as well as taking half damage. *shrug* I never liked sticky spam anyway

[Brains]

new info on targe!!!
E-Mail From Robin - Targe has a Charge Meter - Steam Users' Forums
there is a charge meter. so you can't just run around 24/7 at super fast speeds like the scout. this IS obvious that you couldn't do it forever but it's just a confirmation from the head honcho from valve himself. the thing we need to figure out is if you can turn while charging, or if it will only be straight lines...hmmmmm

soldier update tomorrow probably and expect ENGINEER update on thursday just before they release the class updates for us to play!!! ;) I'm calling it!

[Scruga]

I was impressed by these people:

The red M&M - Steam Users' Forums

The first and second reply (message 2 and 3) =)

[Brains]

I was impressed by these people:

The red M&M - Steam Users' Forums (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1066117)

The first and second reply (message 2 and 3) =)

ahah clutch

[Kaplan]

http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_1


I can't wait to try it out.

[Juicedturtle]

Dope!

[Brains]

now THAT's more like it valve.
so demo get's melee/CQ and soldier gets massive firepower boost...I see how it is :D

Soldier comic (http://www.teamfortress.com/war/soldier/)

[Snix]

Did the demo weapon come out last nite like they said?

I did look at the comic and its showing a new knife along with his shovel

[Brains]

Did the demo weapon come out last nite like they said?

I did look at the comic and its showing a new knife along with his shovel

well it didn't "come out" but they announced it. HERE (http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_1)
and the new soldier comic does show a knife taped to the bottom of the table he has overturned. so a knife unlock is probably coming.

[Tiger]

:D

[Kaplan]

I did look at the comic and its showing a new knife along with his shovel

Nice catch. I didn't notice that when reading the comic last night. A knife melee unlock, I would love to have that.

[Brains]

new idea!
I'm claiming this move if it's possible! will be known as the "Brains Bomber"!!

aight, so demoman 1 has targe. demoman 2 has stickylauncher.
demo 2 shots sticky nades onto demo 1's shield.
demo 1 then charges fast and furious into a pack of enemies (or sentry nest) and demo 2 then detonates the stickies causing mass death to the enemies

;)
hehhh!! heehhh!! ??

**assuming the animation of the charging demoman shows him moving his shield in front of him like he is actually charging with the spike facing towards the enemy.....and assuming such a thing is possible***

thought about it over lunch just now as I was talking to some people about modern warfare 2 and the riot shields. friendly semtex to shield, shielder runs into enemies, enemies die ;)

[StarYoshi]

I saw the knife too... can't wait for all these updates! :)

[Brains]

I saw the knife too... can't wait for all these updates! :)

Thursday night. be there.

[Bonemasher]

I don't think the knife is anything, probably there to throw us off.

[Homfry]

I'm afraid that this will just make pro soliders wicked strong.

Like right now comp soliders already airshot/ hit people right on their feet to pop them up.

So it seems like this will just make them way stronger. It will be harder to kill scouts maybe because of the lack of blast, but the increased proj speed is going to make up for that.

Also it seems like if the rockets don't just travel faster, but also fire faster then it is going to make compression blast useless. With a normal solider you have a chance to reflect the first and the third rocket, but not the second because of the timing. And since one rocket cannot kill you have a small chance to come out on top even though the odds are still in the soldiers favor. Now with this you would only be able to reflect like that 1 first rocket and then maybe the 5th (which it wont get there). Also any reflecting you do wont mean shit becuase the blast radius is so small you are doing to have to d-hit someone.

So pyro now has zero chance against the solider :( instead of just an ok chance.

it is a sad day.

If it doesn't shoot faster just fly faster then it is still going to make things very difficult for a pyro. Whiling making good soliders even better (as if good soldiers needed any help :))

Well see what happens. I just hope 8v8's don't turn into 1 medic 1 demo and 6 soilders :)

[Homfry]

btw I saw some calc on rocket speed and it seemed to say that the faster rocket is going to be faster then a uncharged huntsman arrow. Which is pretty damn fast

[Brains]

btw I saw some calc on rocket speed and it seemed to say that the faster rocket is going to be faster then a uncharged huntsman arrow. Which is pretty damn fast

So I calculated the Direct Hit's stats - Steam Users' Forums

DR rocket is 2nd fastest projectile in the game.
behind the fully charged huntsmen arrow.

[Brains]

newest updates:

1- soldier weapons unveiled and achievements (http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_1)
2- valve fudging numbers so soldier and demo kill counts tie (http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part6/index.htm) (like I predicted) ;)
3- demo weapons all unveiled and his achievements (http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/)

expect the game to update tonight??
new maps, models, animations, achievements, taunts, and top it all off with christmas event in a week? ya, awesome christmas present valve.

[StarYoshi]

I sure hope it's soon... expect my playtime in those classes to shoot up :3

[stewlounse]

Yeah get away from that lame-o pyro, yoshi lololol

[Tiger]

:D.

[Kaplan]

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3259

I want the knife for the 7th unlock.

[Bonemasher]

OMG THIS IS TAKING FOREVER *explodes*

lol

[Brains]

http://www.teamfortress.com/
new updates!!
heavy kissing scout's mom?? wtff

[Ramanag]

Pyro would've been much better.

[Brains]

meet the medic on it's way!
100% PROOF OF MEET THE MEDIC. - Steam Users' Forums

[Jasin]

The SR lets you detonate specific groups of bombs instead of having to set them off all at once.

I wanted this forever, My new favorite weapon.

[Cosmic_Shame]

such a great update for heavies to kill
http://i47.tinypic.com/2wgepp0.png
i got to dominate people ive never dominated before :)
http://i49.tinypic.com/33trmsg.png

[Devant]

why am I always dead in these pictures?

[Cosmic_Shame]

ive never dominated 7 players before that was a first, everyone couldnt figure out how to use the charge and targe so i just miniguned them