Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[stewlounse]

Server is up, wooooooooo!

[Homfry]

Game is still borken for me :(. I don't know anything else I can try. Guess I just have to wait for another update. :(

[Brains]

I just realized that I may never get all the pins/insignias :(

one of the insignias is Distinguished Retaliation Combat which requires 5 Nemesis Pins and 5 Payback pins. I have the 5 nemisis pins (kill an enemy 5 times) but payback is to kill your nemesis....the problem is...I never die enough to have a nemesis :(
even if I were to die alot in a round, it would be even less likely that it is just to a single enemy....

dammit.
guess that one is going to have to be farmed ;)
anyone want to help ? lol

[wellsheit]

I would bite and offer a trade for some dog tags, but I already have yours :D

[Cosmic_Shame]

I would bite and offer a trade for some dog tags, but I already have yours :D

hahaha i finally got stews the other day mission accomplished

[Brains]

I would bite and offer a trade for some dog tags, but I already have yours :D

lol

all it would take is you killing me 5 times in a row then me killing you 5 times in a row

I'd give you another set of dog tags if you wanted? lol

[stewlounse]

I'll just join the other team, Brains. :tongue:

[Brains]

lol that works for me.

[wellsheit]

lulz i could probly swaller that much pride.

[stewlounse]

doods.... we gotta get on our server together one day/night and try to populate that bitch up!

[wellsheit]

fo rizzle my nizzle. we need to do that ish thursday or friday. i'll be out of town most of next week. suckzor :(

[Brains]

thursday night for shizzle, no work friday so I'll be able to hang out in the hizzie all damm day

[netwalker]

Has the M60 been nerfed? Something doesn't feel right about it.

[Cosmic_Shame]

Has the M60 been nerfed? Something doesn't feel right about it.

they did update the game the other day, could very well be

[Brains]

Has the M60 been nerfed? Something doesn't feel right about it.

well there was a post by a DICE dev on twitter like last week
http://i40.tinypic.com/29dwxe9.jpg

DICE did confirm that there was an update submitted to steam two days ago? i think.
should have been available to everyone by this morning (yesterday night even)

I haven't seen the update release notes for this newest update so I don't know if they actually nerf'd it.

EDIT:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/3630/
there's the release notes.
no m60 nerf is listed...so I don't know if it was or not in game

[wellsheit]

i got 2 update notices 2 nights ago. i got the first one. went in game. it crashed. then i got the same notice after i rebooted and restarted the game.

[Brains]

need ammo? here you go.
YouTube- Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - Supply Ownage

[wellsheit]

lol man thats crazy as shit. i know i'll be doing that to every single medpack and ammo box i can find tonight.

[Cosmic_Shame]

good they need to bring down the power of the 1911 way 2 overpowered for a pistol, its .45 not a .50 calibre sniper rifle which sometimes i forget which is which cuz i get sniped across the map with a 45 pistol all the time

[wellsheit]

does this game have bullets lose power over distance???

IE that pistol should be that powerful up close, but across the map it should be useless.

[Brains]

yes it does.
there's a chart I posted somewhere showing all damage for all weapons at varying distances. after a certain distance though, it will do the same damage so say after 200 feet, it will do the same damage at 250ft as it does at 1000ft. I'll look for that chart again.

EDIT: here they are

http://www.joinaclan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/bfbc2-damage-chart.png

http://www.joinaclan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/weapons.png

http://www.joinaclan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/vehicles.png

http://www.joinaclan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/bfbc2BulletDrop.png

[Brains]

I'm curious, does anyone else have their VO setting set to localized so that anytime the in-game characters talk, it's in the language you know?

so even if I'm on the russian team, when a teammate calls for ammo, health or just talks, I'll always hear it in english.

[wellsheit]

i want to keep mine like it is. If I'm US and I hear russians, i immediately switch to 40mm grenade :D

[stewlounse]

BF2 had that option and it worked, but I didn't really care to use it. I'd rather hear the different language as another way to distinguish friend/enemy.

[Cosmic_Shame]

I'm curious, does anyone else have their VO setting set to localized so that anytime the in-game characters talk, it's in the language you know?

so even if I'm on the russian team, when a teammate calls for ammo, health or just talks, I'll always hear it in english.

reason why i dont do it is cuz i dont care what they are saying, all i know is if im american and i hear some dude speakin russian i know that he needs to get killed, when u change the sound like that it gets rid of that

[Brains]

so if you're on the russian team, you don't hear russian?
cuz that's what I'm talking about, if I'm russian, i want to know what my teammates are calling for since I'm usually medic/assault now

[Cosmic_Shame]

so if you're on the russian team, you don't hear russian?
cuz that's what I'm talking about, if I'm russian, i want to know what my teammates are calling for since I'm usually medic/assault now

doesnt work both ways, if ur russian u will hear people speaking english and if ur american u will hear the russians speak english

[Brains]

doesnt work both ways, if ur russian u will hear people speaking english and if ur american u will hear the russians speak english

?? is that with VO set to localized?
cuz that's how I have it set, and that's how I want it to work.

[wellsheit]

how are all of you registered on the veterans program. i've been checking the site for a few weeks and its still not 'updated'

[stewlounse]

It allowed me to sign in with my BC2 info and my BF Heroes stuff. 2142 isn't working so I guess I'll have to start a support chat with EA.

[wellsheit]

also while i'm askin crap, natron mentioned this morning a program that does mouse smoothing and also changes the russians voices to an 'accented' voice so you can tell they are russians, but still understand them.

linky? i'm too lazy to look.

[stewlounse]

http://fitzsimmons.ca/bfbc2configtool-alpha-3/

[netwalker]

It's also in options. "Localized Voices" or something.

[wellsheit]

I think when you do that, they use the same voices. You can't tell if its a Russian or American speaking, if I understand correctly. The mod Natron was talking about, the russians speak english, but with an accent. *shrug*

[Cosmic_Shame]

yesterday i noticed if the russians wanted a medic they actually say medic, i dont know about ammo, i was assault so i had ammo

[stewlounse]

Keep it real! lol.. it's not hard to pick up what they are saying in russian.

[Cosmic_Shame]

yeah just like whenever the MEC yelled BOMBBA that meant grenade in BF2, u pick up ur russian

[Brains]

NEW WEAPON COMING NEXT PATCH!!!
http://j.imagehost.org/0315/BFBC2Game-2010-04-11-23-43.jpg

**if you don't get it, maybe someone can explain it to you :D

[stewlounse]

Hahahaha..what class would that be called..

[klossi]

since it's a pistol, it should be available to anyone.

[Cosmic_Shame]

NEW WEAPON COMING NEXT PATCH!!!
http://j.imagehost.org/0315/BFBC2Game-2010-04-11-23-43.jpg

**if you don't get it, maybe someone can explain it to you :D

HOLY SHIAT THATS AWESOME!!!!! the only thing its missing is the chainsaw bayonett and the shurikens

[Brains]

yay! new client and server side patch coming !!
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/bc2-pc-service-update/1036879-r7-client-r10-servers.html#post14188551

client will be R7 and server will actually be R10

[stewlounse]

woot woot, I want the changelog but they won't release it till the patches are released! booo.

Maybe someone has them out there....

[Brains]

http://kotaku.com/5520763/pretty-up-your-soldier-with-battlefield-bad-company-2-dlc
new skins for characters? I'm not paying for that lol

[Brains]

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/22/battlefield-bad-company-2-vip-map-pack-3-almost-ready-for-deplo/

DLC #3 on its way!

[Cosmic_Shame]

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/22/battlefield-bad-company-2-vip-map-pack-3-almost-ready-for-deplo/

DLC #3 on its way!

i dunno it looks like u have to pay, is that so?

[Brains]

it's free as long as you have the "limited version". which is everyone who bought the game up to one month after release :D

[Brains]

3D patch coming soon.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/05/3d.gaming.future/

even though nvidia already allows you to play it in 3D, guess this patch would be for people who don't use video card hardware to render 3D. doing it through BC2 is probably going to destroy CPUs...hope this patch at least offloads that calculation to GPUs. (I won't play in 3D for this game, too much going on....TF2 on the other hand plays amazing in 3D)

[Brains]

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/bc2-pc-service-update/1088496-client-r8-server-r12-qa.html
Client R8 / Server R12 are in QA
The next release of the game client is currently in QA. (posted May 6th)

We will perform another synchronized client/server update. It is expected to take place early next week.

The client update will be roughly 500MB in size.


Changelog:

Server - Some potential sources for lag/rubberbanding have been eliminated
Server - The old reserved slots has been replaced by a kick-on-demand system like in BF2
Server - Log file for server admins: all remote admin interface commands/events are logged
Server - Log file for server admins: major server events + all chat messages are logged
Server - Idle kick is controllable
Server - Profanity filter can be disabled
Server - Teamkill-kick system is controllable
Server - Ticket counts and bleed rate are controllable per-level
Server - Infantry only mode available per-level
Server - Initial spawn delay and respawn delay are adjustable
Server - Server description can be up to 400 characters, and use "|" for line breaks
Server - Banlist can contain up to 10.000 entries
Server - reduced latency in packet handling

Admin Interface - fixed the player.onKill spam that occasionally happened
Admin Interface - ensured that player.onJoin events always report the player name
Admin Interface - events triggered when people spawn
Admin Interface - much more info on kills
Admin Interface - detailed stats are reported at end-of-round

Gameplay - Various minor level bugfixes
Gameplay - Helicopter handling has been tweaked
Gameplay - Weapon tweaks have been implemented based on PC public feedback
Gameplay - Fixed technical hang when a crate was armed outside of the combat area
Gameplay - "Victory is near" message was shown for the wrong team on Valpara?so, this has been fixed
Gameplay - Countermeasures can be fired when driving a helicopter
Gameplay - The brightness of the pilot view in the Russian helicopter has been reduced
Gameplay - Advanced Spotting scope works better
Gameplay - Knifing people in the back works again (we backed out the change that we had done for Server R11)

Server Browser - Servers are sorted into 3 categories: Normal, Modified, Hardcore depending on their settings
Server Browser – Added support for retrieving update progress
Server Browser - Now refreshes information
Server Browser - Join queue system when attempting to join a full server
Server Browser - all settings are automatically saved between sessions
Server Browser - Pings are sent via an alternate mechanism, which should work for non-Administrator users as well

Client - Fixed DX9 issue, which likely caused graphics glitches and perhaps crashes
Client - Fixed some crashes
Client - Toggle/hold crouch is user controllable
Client - Toggle/hold zoom is user controllable
Client - Vsync bugfixed for DX10/DX11
Client - Rewritten how settings are written to disk; this should reduce/eliminate the spawn lag
Client - Fixed bug where a player could join a server before the stats has been downloaded causing faulty stats in "EOR- unlock progression"-screen
Client - New chat system allows chatting when dead (but not during end of round) and keeps a 100 lines log
Client - Improved Play Now functionality
Client - Removed K/D ratio and Skill Level filters in the leaderboards
Client - Any points you get while being dead will be added to your score
Client - Reduced negative mouse acceleration
Client - More informative disconnection/kick reasons

[nAtr0n]

And....

The Balance tweaks are as follows:

Slightly increased the damage of the UZI at long range.
The AKs74u now has more felt recoil when aiming.
The G3, VSS, and all SemiAutomatic rifles now settle slightly faster between shots when aiming.
The PKM, Type 88LMG, G3, An94, and 40mm shotgun have returned to their former glory.
Increased the damage of the MG3 to bring it in line with the rest of the LMGs.
Fixed a bug where the Saiga12 with slugs would do too much damage at long range.
Fixed a bug where the SVU would do too little damage at long range.
Fixed a bug where M95 rounds would not kill armored targets with headshots.

[Brains]

ahhhh, more tweaks, I love it. keep on truckin DICE!

[lugsy]

no m60 nerf? get gayed by that more than the an-94

[Brains]

m60 has already been nerfed.

[lugsy]

doesn't mean it can't be nerfed again :D would love to see less accuracy on all lmgs tbh lol.

[Brains]

lol another nerf to my precious m60 , NEVAAAAAAA!!!!!!
the gun already bounces around like crazy after each shot...damn recoil is through the roof.

[lugsy]

which I guess is what is helping people, cuz they aim for CBM and ALWAYS get bounced to a headshot on me. :<

[Brains]

all I know is that once this update comes out, I'm going to play alot more.
promises for adjustments to hitreg/lag is something I've been wanting since the beta.
and, the side project I've been working on for 2 months is pretty much done so now I can go back to gaming and getting some sun :D ahah

[Brains]

the real issue at hand after this update is released is:
Server - Initial spawn delay and respawn delay are adjustable

are we going to put the initial spawn back to 0 (or whatever the minimum is) to allow ppl with awesome computers to get in faster?

and are we going to put the respawn delay at it's mimium? I hope this one is left at default because sometimes it's already hard enough to plant at the last set of mcoms never mind when the defense is spawning super fast :D lol instant respawn could be cool in conquest, but for rush it might be....devastating :D

[Brains]

YouTube- Bad Company 2 DLC Preview Weapons & Camo

the new DLC

[Jenna!!]

omgggggggg this game is also hard and confusing just like LOL!!!! grrr!

[Cosmic_Shame]

omgggggggg this game is also hard and confusing just like LOL!!!! grrr!

use the Carl Gustav, u cant miss with it

[stewlounse]

lol please don't become a gustav noob.

I still haven't played since the last patch...kinda wanna do that. Maybe today.

[Jenna!!]

i'm still not following..

[stewlounse]

the carl gustav is the anti-tank launcher ...you can 1 shot people with it.
like the grenade launcher

noob toobs galore

[klossi]

the carl gustav is the anti-tank launcher ...you can 1 shot people with it.
like the grenade launcher

noob toobs galore

this.

only noobs (read: cosmic exclusively) use a fucking rocket launcher or the 40mm grenade launcher as primary weapon.

[Homfry]

What is the bigger noob tube

gustav or 40mm?

[Cosmic_Shame]

i dont know what u guys are talking about :)

[Brains]

New video for the Vietnam expansion.

YouTube - Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam Phu Bai Valley Action

15 bucks, patrol boats, Russian tanks, Hueys, 15 weapons, 10 Achievements/Trophies, 4 multiplayer maps and "All-new voiceovers for both American and Vietnamese forces, based on authentic communication from the Vietnam war for maximum immersion."

Winter 2010 release.

[cherkassy]

I can't wait........

[Munk]

i get to fire a carl gustav in my upcoming course!!

[Cosmic_Shame]

i get to fire a carl gustav in my upcoming course!!

let us know if it is actually recoiless

[stewlounse]

Oh man, I like the way this looks.

[Cosmic_Shame]

yeah this looks good

[Brains]

New update.



All Weapons Bronze Insignia requiring an unobtainable bronze star for the tracer dart – requirement removed.
Improved Hit registration made through several fixes and some of the hitboxes themselves have been changed. This will increase the accuracy of guns.
Blue box chat window removed
The 2 second immunity when spawning/being revived will now be immediately removed either by firing, zooming, or any movement (move, crouch, jump). A Spawning Player can still orient passively in the Game World..
3D vision fixed.
Fixed slug shotgun zoom crosshair on PC so they better represent the long range accuracy. Crosshairs now close more on PC, similar to consoles.
Reduced slug shotgun hip accuracy to require zooming for consistent long range accuracy. Hip accuracy is now on par with the semi automatic weapons.
Fixed a bug on PC where the G3 would do less damage than intended.
Fixed VADS turning sensitivity on PC so it performs like the ZU23.
Reduced VADS push back and damage to balance it with the ZU23.
Fixed a bug where vehicle countermeasures would fail to remove tracer darts at high speed.
Reduced the reload time for vehicle countermeasures.
Slightly increased the AT4's damage vs armor to emphasize its anti vehicle role while keeping it balanced vs armor.
Increased the AT4's top speed and acceleration so users spend less time exposed when firing.
Increased the AT4's splash damage so it competes with other AT weapons vs infantry. The AT4 still has the least splash damage of all AT weapons.
Reduced the splash damage of the Carl Gustav to bring it in line with other explosive weapons. The Carl Gustav still has the most splash damage of all AT weapons.
Increased the 1 shot kill range of the M95 body shot to counter its lower rate of fire.
Fixed a bug with the SVU that gave it better close range damage than other semi auto weapons.
Reduced all weapon damage to the MCOM by 50%.
Fixed an C4 vs MCOM exploit on Atacama Desert.
Fixed a bug with FOV when aiming the M1911.
Lowered the close range damage of the AN94 to highlight its long range role.
Increased the accuracy of the F2000 on the move to highlight its role as a mobile AR.
Increased the close range damage of the shotguns to give them a greater advantage vs slugs.
Slightly lowered the damage of the M60 to balance its accuracy advantage vs other LMG's.
Slightly lowered the damage of the MG3 at close range to balance it with other high rate of fire weapons.
Slightly increased the damage of the UH60.

[Brains]

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/11/08/oasis-and-harvest-day-heading-for-battlefield-bad-company-2.aspx##

VIP map pack 7: some bug fixes/tweaks + 4 new(ish) maps.

[Brains]

YouTube - Bad Company 2 Vietnam
text in russian...but w/e, just look at the images :D

[Cosmic_Shame]

all i wanna know is if i can drive around hit the 0 button and play Bird is the Word

[Brains]

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/30/battlefield-bad-company-2-vietnam-strikes-dec-21-vip-map-pack/
here we go fellas!

[Cosmic_Shame]

shit just got real

[stewlounse]

haha yessssssss

[elninio]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/11/30/battlefield-bad-company-2-vietnam-release-date-set-vip-map-pack-7-out-tomorrow/ Vietnam 18 th of december bring on the napalm

[heiny]

So Zero gifted me this last night since it was $6. What a pal
I bought this back when it came out on sale for $30. Never played it cause it was through the EA Manager and was awful to get in to games with friends.

Now that I have it on steam, can I join on games with you guys as if it were tf2 or l4d? If so then I am more highly inclined to play this!

[Brains]

So Zero gifted me this last night since it was $6. What a pal
I bought this back when it came out on sale for $30. Never played it cause it was through the EA Manager and was awful to get in to games with friends.

Now that I have it on steam, can I join on games with you guys as if it were tf2 or l4d? If so then I am more highly inclined to play this!

you have to use the in-game friends manager.
so you have to collect the "soldier names" of the friends you want to play with.
but once they are in that friends list, then you can join the game they are in with one push of a button.

[Clip]

does this game still do the respawning off of people no matter where they are in the map as long as they are in your squad?

if not, I might get back into it.

[Steiner]

Clipp -- You can still spawn off of anyone in your squad. With the maps being so large, it would be rough to get rid of this feature. I guess they could increase the spawn rate of vehicles if necessary. The system definitely has its pros and cons. Places a lot of importance on keeping at least one guy in the squad alive.

[Clip]

pass.

[klossi]

does this game still do the respawning off of people no matter where they are in the map as long as they are in your squad?

if not, I might get back into it.



how is this a bad feature? it's the best thing i could think of to emphasize teamplay and actually making it possible to stay together and play as a squad

[Clip]

maybe if they let you do it when the squad mate was out of combat, but too many times I would be one or two shots away from killing a guy when 1 or 2 fresh guys would spawn right on him during a fight...

Yea, sounds like fun to me...

plus the overall game play just feels messy to me, but that's not as big a concern. I just can't get over the spawn system really.

[klossi]

maybe if they let you do it when the squad mate was out of combat, but too many times I would be one or two shots away from killing a guy when 1 or 2 fresh guys would spawn right on him during a fight...

Yea, sounds like fun to me...

plus the overall game play just feels messy to me, but that's not as big a concern. I just can't get over the spawn system really.


I understand your opinion but I do not share it.

[.bot.]

maybe if they let you do it when the squad mate was out of combat, but too many times I would be one or two shots away from killing a guy when 1 or 2 fresh guys would spawn right on him during a fight...

Yea, sounds like fun to me...

plus the overall game play just feels messy to me, but that's not as big a concern. I just can't get over the spawn system really.

Clip, this is exactly how i felt, coming from a bf2 & bf2142 competitive scene where you could spawn on the squad leader but just the squad leader to being able to spawn on ANYONE is a huge change. Allows for alot more action but its alot more reckless you dont have to have that one person making sure they stay alive as long as anyone is alive, this game is a faster moving game than either of the two i played competitvely tho.

That being said, I've started playing this again and it doesn't seem like its so much of an issue anymore, only thing now that seems to really kill is the fucking choppers, but thats how they were in the others any good pilot and gunner would control the map. But in this, it seems any average pilot+gunner=win. Thats my only complaint.

[sgt_deacon]

Clip, this is exactly how i felt, coming from a bf2 & bf2142 competitive scene where you could spawn on the squad leader but just the squad leader to being able to spawn on ANYONE is a huge change. Allows for alot more action but its alot more reckless you dont have to have that one person making sure they stay alive as long as anyone is alive, this game is a faster moving game than either of the two i played competitvely tho.

That being said, I've started playing this again and it doesn't seem like its so much of an issue anymore, only thing now that seems to really kill is the fucking choppers, but thats how they were in the others any good pilot and gunner would control the map. But in this, it seems any average pilot+gunner=win. Thats my only complaint.

I wish the BF games would do helicopters the way they were done in Desert Combat, very difficult to fly but once mastered were also very powerful. The desert combat method also gave a lot more control to the pilot, I miss it. :(

[elninio]

fifht map for vietnam 69 000 000 000 actions needed to unlock http://www.battlefieldbadcompany2.com/vietnam/battleforhastings

[stewlounse]

I'm loving some vietnam! The maps are so different, it's harder though.

[Brains]

is the game like super green and greyed out on certain maps for everyone else too? I understand that they are trying to mimic the films of the era but damn, sure does make it harder to spot enemies.

[elninio]

yeah for me it`s like there a haze and it does make it ard to see enemys specially you Brains lol

[Brains]

i'm just too beast. unless I'm on a team of total fucking retards, then I just rage and get mad that I can't just carry a team to victory all the time....

[elninio]

Brains you got the broadest shoulders in the world you must carry team lol

[Cosmic_Shame]

btw i have been revived i love this game a ton. NAM and the original, doesnt matter its a shitload of fun